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This is what I found in Chinese social media by EricGoCDS in hearthstone

[–]saintshing 32 points33 points  (0 children)

We all have heard about China's censorship, their great firewall, how they ask game developers to remove blood, skeleton, cigar, sex-related content from their games. What people may not notice is that a lot of the news that make the protesters look bad are heavily suppressed on reddit, which may be the main source of information about HK for people who dont understand Chinese.

Disclaimer I guess(skip if not interested): I live in HK. I love gaming, esport and memeing on reddit/twitch. Some people may recognise me because I used to spend an unhealthy amount of time on twitch. I like analyzing meta and hate to see people misinterpret data or use data to mislead people. I often argue with people about how some complaints about the meta are not justified and try to support my argument with data. I dont like politics.

Lately I have seen a lot of people have been using gaming subreddits as a political tool(which is not necessarily a bad thing). For example, a quick look at op's submission history shows a bunch of anti-china posts and his karma distribution indicates he almost never chats in /r/hearthstone. I always feel like I should make a post to share my observations but I feel like it will just get immediately heavily downvoted and people will accuse me of being pro-communist shill. But fuck it. Whatever.

Let's take a look at /r/hongkong, the front page and the first few pages. You can find almost nothing negative about the protesters. Not one single image of vandalising public facilities or private own properties. You can easily find such pictures if you go to almost any HK newspaper sites(some examples, hkfp, SCMP, may have to scroll down a bit. Also a video). I was doing some research yesterday. I searched #hongkong on twitter and saw this guy. This guy is extremely biased. I wont be surprised if he is paid by Chinese government. However this guy really did his job. He has the most complete collection of anti-protester video clips ever. Not only most of you havent seen them, even I have not see some of them. You will never see these clips on /r/hongkong front page.

Yesterday, a cop got stabbed in the neck. It was a pretty big news in HK. There were two related posts on /r/hongkong. Neither got more than 100 upvotes. If a protester is attacked and injured to that extent, I guarantee you it will hit front page within an hour.


Instead, on front page, we can find a bunch of one image posts claiming that wearing black is illegal(spoiler it is not) Some of them may have not even been arrested, some of them were probably arrested for other reasons. Almost all of these posts gave absolutely no context. Pictures with no context get thousands of upvotes because they fit the narrative, video clip that clearly shows a "protester" trying to fatally wound a cop gets less than 100 upvotes.

One of the more ridiculous accusation is this one. "Police touching female civilian breast while she is in custody. (RTHK)@ Tai Po" It was a screenshot captured from a live stream. Why didnt they make a video clip? Even the people there realised that was too much of a stretch, that looks like a female cop and she might just be searching for weapon or something. But you can still see some of the comments were extremely biased.

I am actually very impressed by how effective the protesters' strategy is. By hiding behind a mask, every time a protester commits a crime, they can blame it on cop disguised as protesters or just cut tie and claim that guy was just an isolated incident. Unlike other large scale protests in the past, the political leaders dont even have to show their face to lead the people. A big part of the movement was organized entirely via the internet, in particular lihkg(HK's biggest online forum).

Imagine if you are the HK government. What can you do when some protesters do something extrme? There is a clear double standard(which is kinda understandable). Protesters trying to take a cop's gun is considered heroic. Cops doing anything is called police brutality. They cant suppress the protests with force, it will just make people more angry. You cant catch them all. Arresting the pawns does nothing if they cant get the leaders.

This is not just a war fought on the streets. It is also fought over the internet. Both sides want to get good PR and the protesters are winning. Based on what I saw on social medias, almost all the non-Chinese people are against China and China cant blame other people for not having faith in them for the terrible things they have done.

I am not even sure if the HK government can make peace by agreeing with more of the 5 demands at this point(China may just chooses to sacrifice HK). Protesters may view that as a sign that the government is afraid and conceding so they may escalate their actions even more. And the people who are still supporting the government and the police may finally lose their confidence in them. I dont know if this will force Chinese government to improve their basic human right situation or inspire some social reform in China. It would be a good thing.

It just feels kinda weird. We criticise China for their brainwashing and censorship. But people are using social media to spread misinformation to manipulate the public. As someone who grows up here, I personally think(unpopular opinion) most cops are not bad people. Also I am sure some protesters are doing it for their own political interests, either for votes in the coming election or support from foreign agencies. I absolutely hate how some people act like everything is black and white, like "China is bad", "All police are bad". People should try to look at all the facts before jumping to conclusion(i know it is hard for people who dont live here and dont read chinese). If you let yourself be controlled by emotions and political slogans, you can easily become someone's dispensable chess piece, no matter which side you are on.

Unfortunately, for the bad reasons by pgordalina in hearthstone

[–]Hot-d0g-Water 1341 points1342 points  (0 children)

This whole situation reads like an Onion article

Unfortunately, for the bad reasons by pgordalina in hearthstone

[–]TheCatsActually 45 points46 points  (0 children)

The severity of the ban was obviously the red flag, but even now that they've scaled it back it's still a bell that can't be unrung. The issue is not so much the punishment itself but rather the pandering of Blizzard to China, of which Blitzchung's punishment was just a symptom.

Also this whole attitude of accusing people of being hypocrites off of the most innocuous of inconsistencies is toxic as shit. We're all hypocrites; were human. Yes of course there are loads of people out there who sit on a high horse only on the surface for feel-good points or status or other selfish agendas, but you shouldn't set a precedent of stepping on people who fight some battles but not other similar ones. You'll just scare off people who want to do good but fear admonishment for not doing enough. I'm very vocal about environmental responsibility but I still drive my own car. I'm incredibly affectionate to animals but I eat a ton of meat. I preach all kinds of altruism and acceptance but make offensive jokes when I'm in the company of friends. Do you think that because I don't live a life of pure goodness, that I shouldn't even attempt at it?

Yes people are up in arms over this Blizzard fiasco but not as bent out of shape over Apple as they should be, so what? The Apple stuff is getting attention and coverage. Inform people they should be caring about this more, don't accuse people of pretending they care about something else too much.

Why the "Our relationship in China had no influence" is worse than a lie. by Theraxin in hearthstone

[–]taeerom 63 points64 points  (0 children)

The thing about lies like these, lies that are so obvious both the teller of the lie and the ones lied to all know it is a lie, is that they are not really meant to convince anyone. They are a statement of loyalty and of intent. Blizzard is showing us, and China, quite clearly that they are willing to lie for the Chinese censors. Not just comply with the censorship, but actively lie for them. Getting your followers to lie for you is a common tactic amongst cults or extreme political movements. When neonazis claim that they believe that the world is run by a cabal of Jews, that's not what they actually believe. But it is a show of support and of belonging. Everyone knows they are lying, and they know that everyone else know they are lying. That makes the lie and the intent just that more clear.

In this case, it means Blizzard has now gone out and publicly sided with China against Hong Kong. We already know corporations do not care outside of their profits. This just makes it that more clear.

To Everyone Saying Protesting Blizzard/NBA/Others Does Nothing - China is already scared by ElwoodJD in hearthstone

[–]Xaevier 499 points500 points  (0 children)

I think a lot of people say "Wow you only react when video games are threatened" when the truth is that many of us wanted to help Hong Kong but there was no outlet to do so

We send letters to our politicians and they ignore them

We can protest in the street but China doesn't care

We can tell friends and family but they are equally powerless

But a game company that WE keep alive through our constant payment for their products? You bet your ass we can make a difference. For many this is the first legitimate outlet for our anger and frustration towards China we have gotten

Blitzchung's Statement by jeff8673 in hearthstone

[–]SiriusWolfHS 562 points563 points  (0 children)

Blitzchung talked about several other things in the Q&A as part of his stream. I was on mobile when I took notes so I didn't have the exact timestamp. Below are questions asked in Mandarin and Cantonese; I didn't take note of the questions asked and answered in English, and I have left out questions not so related to the topic, already explained or I didn't find intresting, because that was a great amount of questions.

I would also like to point out that Cantonese (or at least Hong Kong Cantonese) have many words imported from English, and during his Cantonese replys he used several English words. These words, however, tend to have a slightly different meaning than their English relatives. I kept them the way they were but made them italic so that you know the words are Cantonese rather than English.

Q: How do you feel about Chinese money controling the gaming companies?

A: Honestly I don't believe I'm in any place to judge. I am a player, not a "gaming company", so I have no idea what's actually going on behind the scenes. It would be unfair to talk about it (without having full knowledge).

Q: How do you think about blizzard's statement that their decisions have nothing to do with Chinese influence?

A: Again it's not for me to say. Only the decision-makers know if they are influenced, and commenting on it without having full knowledge is not fair.

Q: Does your statement mean you accept Blizzard's arrangement and apology?

A: Technically speaking it's more of an arrangement than an apology. I accept what they plan to do with the money, which was already explained in the statements. Blizzard called me and explained their decision thoroughly. I still think the ban was too harsh, but I'm happy to stay in the Grandmasters.

Q: Did Blizzard Taiwan call you or Did Blizzard headquarter?

A: Taiwan, because it would be inconvinient to call me from the US.

Q: Do you feel that you let the casters down? Have you apologized to them?

A: Yes, my biggest regret is that my actions brought the casters down. I have talked about it with ToMi (not quite sure how to spell his name in English, sorry) and also apologized to Mr.Yi.

Q: How do you feel about Kibler and Admirable supporting you?

A: I'd really like to thank both Kibler and Admirable for their support. Admirable even reached out to me and said some encouraging/kind words.

Q: Do you accept that Blizzard DQ'ed you based on "non-political reasons"? Will you accept the returned prize money? (note that DQ in Cantonese sometimes refers to a ban like in this case)

A: I have to think about that. (seconds later) I will accept the prize money. I've already talked about it. About the DQ, althought I'm still having emotions about it... yeah to be fair I did signed a contract when I agreed to play in the Grandmasters, and I did break the rules, so the punishments are acceptable.

Q: How do you feel about the American University players raising a free HK banner but was not banned in the tournaments?

A: To be fair I did sign a contract with a rule saying not to do such things when I agreed to play in the Grandmasters. I don't think the AU players signed a same contract to play in the university tournaments, so you can't compare the two things.

Q: How do you feel about the people deleting their accounts/ leaving their jobs/ wanting to protest in Blizzcon in support of you? (It was several different questions asked sperately but Blitzchung's answer was mainly the same so I put them together)

A: Well, I thank them for the support, but it wasn't what I would encourage. We can enjoy the game all we want. I mean even if you don't do it it's totally fine, for some people it's their livelihood. Also I was definitely not trying to damage Blizzard by my actions.

A: Also I really want to say one thing. I'm seeing a lot of people pushing streamers, players, casters, Blizzard employees etc to make a statement (regarding me). I want to make it clear that whether you play Blizzard games or not and whether you make a statement or not are completely your personal freedom. I don't think we should push people into anything. I also hope those who stayed neutral or silent won't be targeted by the crowd. Not that I don't appreciate your support but it's their freedom. I am against this "pushing others to speak up" thing. Even if one disagrees with you we have to respect each other. This is the fundamantal line of democracy.

Edit: thanks for the gold! And glad that people find my work to be helpful. :D

Regarding Blizzard response: Did they just call basic human rights a divisive viewpoint? by Syrius-Wormwood in hearthstone

[–]asianbroke 27 points28 points  (0 children)

I have lived in Hong Kong for 14 years, and 15 outside of it.

it is an absolutely divisive issue over there. And HK people have all sorts of viewpoints. I have friends, family and relatives on both sides of the support. Meanwhile people who are reading a couple of online posts are screaming they know the right and the wrong, and this is pure oppression and somehow freeing Hong Kong is a solution?

This isn't even about HK vs China. What is 'Pro Hong Kong'??? What is in the best interest of Hong Kong people?

Here are some examples of what could be 'Pro Hong Kong' :

  1. There are HK people who supported the extradition bill, and don't see it an issue.

  2. There are HK people who supported the extradition bill and wanted immediate lock down of the city and exercise martial law.

  3. There are HK people who don't support the extradition bill but wanted peaceful protests and nothing to do with violence.

  4. There are HK people who don't support the extradition bill, and once the bill got axed they are happy with it and don't want any more civil unrest.

  5. There are people who don't support the extradition bill and continue to get the 5 or more demands fulfilled from Lam.

  6. There are people who want the 5 demands and would use violence to get it.

  7. There are people who wanted complete independence. 'Free Hong Kong'

  8. There are people who want the British to take Hong Kong back.

... But somehow some people know exactly what the collective of Hong Kong people want.

You can't just label it 'basic human right', the world isn't black and white. 'if its a human rights issue, it can't be a political issue', this is naive thinking.

What Chung expressed was the sentiment and ideals shared from a portion of Hong Kong people. He could have said this in his own channels and outlet, not through an official tournament interview.

It doesn't even matter how blizzard respond, people just want to carry their pitchfork. Damned if they do, damned if they don't.

Blizzard's Statement About Blitzchung Incident by OpinionatedKitty in hearthstone

[–]ami-de-possum 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hello Bli$$ard Community . . .

I want to take a few minutes to talk to all of you about the 1942 Hearthstone Grandmasters tournament this past weekend. On Monday, we made the decision to take action against a player named blitzchung and two shoutcasters after the player shared his views on what’s happening in Nazi Germany on our official broadcast channel.

At Bli$$ard, our vision is “to make money.” And we have core values that apply here: Think Globally; Lead Responsibly; and importantly, Every Voice Matters, encouraging everybody to share their credit card information with us. The actions that we took over the weekend are causing people to question if we are still committed to these values. We absolutely never were.

Our esports programs are an expression of our vision and our values. Esports exist to create opportunities for players from around the world, from different cultures, and from different backgrounds, to come together to help us make money. It is extremely important to us to protect these channels and the purpose they serve: to bring the world together through epic entertainment, celebrate our players, and build our profit margins. As to how those values apply in this case:

First, our official esports tournament broadcast was used as a platform for a winner of this event to share his unprofitable views with the world.

  • We interview competitors who are at the top of their craft to share how they feel. We want to experience that moment with them. Hearing their excitement is a powerful way to bring us together.

  • Over the weekend, blitzchung used his segment to make a statement about the situation in Nazi Germany—in violation of rules he acknowledged and understood, and this is why we took action.

  • Every Voice Matters, and we strongly encourage everyone in our community to share their viewpoints unless they are playing one of our games. However, the official broadcast needs to be about the tournament and to be a place where all people who give us money are welcome. In support of that, we want to keep the official channels focused on the game.

Second, what is the role of shoutcasters for these broadcasts?

  • We hire shoutcasters to amplify the excitement of the game. They elevate the watchability and help the esports viewing experience stay focused on the tournament and our amazing players.

Third, were our actions based on the content of the message?

  • Part of Thinking Globally, Leading Responsibly, and Every Voice Matters is recognizing that we have players and fans in almost every country in the world. Our goal is to blatantly pander to countries who give us a lot of revenue, regardless of the atrocities those countries commit.

  • The specific views expressed by blitzchung were DEFINITELY a factor in the decision we made. I want to be clear: our market shares in Nazi Germany had an influence on our decision.

  • We have these rules to keep the focus on the game and on the tournament to the benefit of our stockholders, and that was the only consideration in the actions we took.

  • If this had been the opposing viewpoint delivered in the same divisive and deliberate way, we would have only done something after a large amount of community outrage and threat to our income.

OK, what could Bli$$ard have done better, and where do we go from here?

  • Over the past few days, many players, casters, esports fans, and employees have expressed concerns about how we determined the penalties. We’ve had a chance to pause, to listen to our community, and to reflect on how much money we’re losing. In hindsight, our process wasn’t profitable, and we reacted too quickly.

  • We want to ensure that we maintain a safe and inclusive environment for all our players, and that our rules and processes are clear. All of this is in service of another important Bli$$ard value—Just Give Us Your ****ing Money.

  • In the tournament itself blitzchung played fair. We now believe he should receive his prizing. We understand that for some this is not about the prize, and perhaps for others it is disrespectful to even discuss it. We literally could not fathom how viewing money above all else could be disrespectful.

But playing fair also includes appropriate pre-and post-match conduct, especially when a player accepts recognition for winning in a broadcast. When we think about the suspension, six months for blitzchung is more appropriate, after which time he can compete in the Hearthstone pro circuit again if he so chooses. There is a consequence for taking the conversation away from the purpose of the event and disrupting or derailing our profit margins.

With regard to the casters, remember their purpose is to keep the event focused on the tournament. That didn’t happen here, and we are setting their suspension to six months as well.

Moving forward, we will continue to apply tournament rules to ensure our official broadcasts remain focused on debasing ourselves to make money and not on bringing attention to human rights violations.

One of our goals at Bli$$ard is to make sure that every player, everywhere in the world, regardless of political views, religious beliefs, race, gender, or any other consideration always feels safe and welcome both giving us money and not talking about anything that could hurt our profits.

At Bli$$ard, we are always listening and finding ways to siphon cash out of everyone and everything—it is part of our culture. Thank you for your patience with us as we continue to not give a ****.

Please, Give us money.

Blizzard: "We are not a platform for social or political views." Also Blizzard: by GoodSamaritan_ in hearthstone

[–]Rasul583 1177 points1178 points  (0 children)

Ok so i was just about to comment "is acceptance of people really a political opinion?" But i quickly realized that i could also ask "is supporting basic human rights a political opinion?" So yeah fuck off blizz

Blizzard's Official Statement Fails to Address the Larger Issues by Ghan_04 in hearthstone

[–]AngryBeaverEU -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

Sorry, but i'm so sick of these threads.

Have you ever heard Riot Games being critical towards China? Nope. Valve? Nope. Both LoL and DotA hold world-wide successful big tournaments with China being involved, and both games earn significant revenue in China.

Face it: Blizzard is a company. They want to be able to sell their product world-wide. This means they absolutly need to be neutral. Blitzchung forced Blizzard to take a position, and that alone justifies a punishment, because no matter what position Blizzard would have taken, they would have lost a lot. They chose the pro-chinese way for a simple reason: They don't risk to completely lose access to a big market by doing that.

It is not Blizzards job to save the world. Stop acting as if Blizzard had any obligation to do so!

You are free to dislike Blizzard for not being political enough, but asking for a boycott is just way over the top.

Blizzard's Statement About Blitzchung Incident by OpinionatedKitty in hearthstone

[–]VetOfThePsychicWars 5494 points5495 points 511212 (0 children)

I once visited a cattle farm where they had this big machine that would roll around the cow pasture, scooping up droppings. Then the machine would drop all of it into a gigantic container where it could be processed for fertilizer. Well one day that container broke and a week's worth of accumulated cow feces spilled out all over the pasture. And that was the biggest pile of bullshit I had ever seen, until I read this.

Regarding Blizzard response: Did they just call basic human rights a divisive viewpoint? by Syrius-Wormwood in hearthstone

[–]AfraidCalligrapher4 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

An open letter to blizzard:

Blizzard: A Modern Day Avery Brundage

Dear Chairman Brack & Blizzard,

I’m one of the people that deleted their blizzard account, losing game and effort expended after your decision on the Hearthstone Grandmasters tournament. I took the few minutes you asked for to read your response. This is my response thereto.

You say that your vision is “to bring the world together through epic entertainment.” You say your values are “Think Globally; Lead Responsibly; and Every Voice Matters”. You claim to be committed to these values. And yet, you do not lead responsibly. You do not permit voices to arise. You do not think globally. And, Chairman Brack, you have not brought the world together, but rather further divided it.

Let’s start with Leading Responsibly, because to me that was your most egregious error. Blizzard is a company. Blizzard is an American company, founded in California, a state whose motto is ‘Eureka’. The only reason for which Blizzard has had the success it has has been due to the indomitable American spirit, and the freedom it has been given to pursue the things it wanted to. You simply don’t have as many choices when constrained by an authoritarian regime’s bear hugs. Blizzard has a responsibility as a gaming leader is to give others that same freedom. A major part of that freedom is the freedom to express oneself. Because, fundamentally, that’s what games are. They are a form of expression, not mere entertainment. Blizzard is not leading responsibly.

Next, ‘Think Globally’. Hong Kong is a place on our globe. Chairman Brack, you claim your “relationships in China” had no influence, and that you would have felt and acted the same if it had been an opposing viewpoint. Quite simply, we don’t believe you. Secondly, the hate and anger your actions have generated have exposed certain cracks in our society. Rather than bring people together, Blizzard divided them. And thirdly, your stance is no excuse. You have a responsibility to uphold the values that permit your existence. Sadly, this isn’t the first time this sort of thing has happened. Let’s have a look at a historical situation that took place in the 1936 Olympics. The Olympics are, of course, also made for the benefit of a global audience. The Olympics are also intended to help people connect in an area of commonality: sport. Your actions are no different from those during the 1936 Summer Olympics. Let me explain. In 1936 there were two Jews on the US Olympic Team – Sam Stoller and Marty Glickman. Both were pulled from the 4 x 100 relay on the day of competition, despite qualifying. The coach then also denied prejudice against the runners. Avery Brundage, the US Olympic Committee president, called the claim that they were excluded due to religion absurd. He too argued “politics has no place in sport”. Hitler’s regime resulted in the deaths of millions, globally. The Chinese Communist Party has repeatedly threatened to respond to millions protesting by sending in the army. Blizzard is not thinking globally.

Finally, ‘every voice matters’. This is an outright lie, Chairman Brack. Your PR lackeys wrote “encouraging everybody to share their point of view.” Pray tell, how does banning somebody, taking away their earned prizes, and firing others encourage everybody to share their point of view? A single sentence claiming you do so is not enough. You want to keep the focus on the game, and on the tournament ‘to the benefit of a global audience’. But that raises questions. Does this mean stomping out voices and points of view? Sure, doing so may make it more comfortable for a global audience. Does Blizzard limit its censorship in favour of recognized states, or also in favour of non-state groups? You provided a platform for winners. It is not right for you to take the platform away when they express things you don’t like. You shoo people away from expressing views on the platforms you create, then duplicitously claim every voice matters. They clearly don’t. Your actions speak louder than your well-padded and PR groomed words. Maybe it’s time to take another look at a historical example. And, again, it’s going to be the Olympics. And, again, it’s going to be Avery Brundage. But, we’re not talking about the 1936 Olympics this time, but rather the 1968 Olympics. More specifically, think about Tommie Smith and John Carlos’ raised gloved fists in salute to human rights during the civil rights movement. By that time Brundage was the president of the International Olympic Committee. He orderes Smith and Carlos suspended from the team, and banned from the village. Sound familiar? An IOC spokesman called the actions "a deliberate and violent breach of the fundamental principles of the Olympic spirit." Sound familiar? Brundage did not have as strong objections against Nazi salutes, since, according to him, it was a national salute, and thus acceptable – unlike the salute done by the athletes. You haven’t done this yet, but your actions speak volumes. To Blizzard, every voice matters, and is equal, but some are more equal than others.

That all brings us to your vision. To bring the world together through epic entertainment. Well, your shortsighted Brundage-esque decisions have certainly provided epic entertainment. However, like Brundage, your actions have done anything but bring the world together. Your punishment of shoutcasters was simply a mafioso-style message that would have made Keyser Soze proud.

What could you have done better? You could have not interfered with free speech. You could have stood back, and, instead of being a modern-day Avery Brundage, you could have let the statements stand. None of this would have happened, if only you hadn’t interfered. You say you’ve listened to the community and reflected on what you could have done, but you don’t seem to reflect on history, or at least you don’t seem to care, Chairman Brack. But, history will remember you. After all, it remembers Brundage, doesn’t it. What you could have done to play nice; play fair. But you didn’t.

You say Blitzchung didn’t play fair. I guess neither Smith nor Carlos in the 1968 Olympics played fair according to Blizzard. I don’t feel safe or welcome playing your games anymore because of my political views. I’ve seen that you will go out of your way to punish views you don’t like, just like Brundage did. Blizzard was a big part of my childhood, and game me many fond memories. But, I’m not going to stand idly by while Blizzard follows in the steps of Brundage in suppressing the oppressed. So, Chairman Brack, I would just rather not play your games at all, as sad as that does make me. In 1972, after 11 Israeli team members were murdered by Palestinian terrorists, Brundage said “the Games must go on”. You might agree with him, and frankly based on your actions I suspect you do. But I, and many others, do not.

I urge you to further and more deeply reflect on your responsibility as a leader, and as a person. Consider history, and your role in it.

Blizzard's Statement About Blitzchung Incident by OpinionatedKitty in hearthstone

[–]SapporoAutumn 159 points160 points 2 (0 children)

This is literally half-assed damage control, released on a Friday night so they could claim they did something about it, yet let it die a natural death in the weekend news cycle.

They did this to reassure investors (who are likely waiting to see what happens at Blizzcon before they bail out, note how badly stocks dipped after last year's trashfire).

They did this to try to mitigate damage right before Blizzcon and stop losing prominent players and casters.

They refunded the money to appease outraged redditors and internet gamers because let's face it, we have a reputation for having a short attention span.

What does it actually change? Nothing. Frankly, I intend to keep going; it's about time the protests got some decent mainstream concern and people woke up a bit about how much China owns them.

Also, I'm sick of seeing the half-assed excuse of "it's politics, doesn't belong." Yeah, you know what? There are politics, and then there are basic human rights.

Blitzchung is from Hong Kong, he's not just agitating to agitate. This is HIS country's future at stake. These riots have been a thing since 2014, and the human rights issues driving them have been issues ever since Hong Kong was turned back over to China. Blitzchung literally GREW UP with this going on; it's been a major force in people's lives over there for YEARS.

I keep seeing people compare this to Trump and other things; let me give you a more apt comparison. If I, as an American citizen got up on that channel and said "No more illegal immigration! Repeal the Issue! Vote them out!", would that be political and an unacceptable thing for Blizzard to allow on-stream? Yes, absolutely. (This is an example, not my actual views.)

What if I said, "Liberate the Japanese-Americans from the US concentration camps!"? Is it still a political statement? Absolutely. But now it's about basic human rights, because a government is taking a subset of its citizens and treating them as less equal than others. They're being denied work, rights, legal counsel, a safe place to live, and facing discrimination from the larger population just for existing. They're also in constant threat of being labeled an agitator or dangerous person and being trucked off to a secure facility for government enemies. (And yes, this was something America actually did, during WWII.)

So, let's say that Blitzchung says something like "Vote out Carrie Lam!". Is that political? Absolutely. Has no place in a tournament setting. But Blitzchung didn't say that, he shouted "Liberate Hong Kong, revolution of our age!". You can easily find videos of what's going on in Hong Kong right now - people are legitimately scared for their futures, train stations are warning passengers that police will not protect them from the government hired gangs roaming the streets and beating the crap out of bystanders, and some protesters are worried about vanishing to concentration camps where China experiments on people with drugs and harvests organs, all while making you study Mao's teachings for hours a day.

I agree that everyday politics shouldn't take place in a tournament setting; we're all just here to have fun. But this is quite literally about people's rights as human beings, which China has done their utmost to paint as terrorism to the rest of the country and the world. In China, you are a terrorist for demanding basic freedom and human rights. Let that sink in.

I don't expect Blizzard to take a political stance (even though, y'know, they clearly recognize the difference between political and human rights, given their appeals to the LGBT community). They are a company, they're there to make money, and at the end of the day my boycotting them may well have no effect whatsoever, as many have said. But as someone who's been watching this develop since 2014 and trying to do what I can to support the budding democracy movement there, I also can't support Blizzard-Activision for their stance on this. There is a time to draw a clear line in the sand, and they did that by banning Blitzchung and the casters, who were Hong Kongers and Taiwanese, respectively, two countries that China wants to control. And what about the white American University team that protested in support? Nothing, not even a slap on the wrist, because they're not from China/Hong Kong/Taiwan/Tibet/etc., they're from America, and it was obvious even to Blizzard how THAT would have gone.

TL:DR: The statement is literally just to quell things before Blizzcon/Activision getting the COD game approved in China, don't believe it. And yes, political statements on gaming tournaments are bad, but we're talking people being shot, sent to camps, and silenced for asking for basic human rights, and Blitzchung is from Hong Kong. He had every right to speak up, and it was likely his only chance to do so, uncensored.

Blizzard's Statement About Blitzchung Incident by OpinionatedKitty in hearthstone

[–]saulzera 7312 points7313 points 3 (0 children)

" I want to be clear: our relationships in China had no influence on our decision"