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[–]trotsky102 1937 points1938 points  (91 children)

This might sound bad but I had no clue pyke was black anyway

[–]NicholasaGerz 1088 points1089 points  (20 children)

his skin is decayed because he's been dead for years...

[–]circles308 1384 points1385 points  (12 children)

Then why am i so white

[–]UnitedSC2 439 points440 points  (1 child)

Being dead inside doesn't count

[–]oldandcranku 25 points26 points  (0 children)

You're just turning into a ghost.

[–]nmcc2345 47 points48 points  (2 children)

his skin is decayed

Ok makes sense

she's been dead

Wait what.

[–]Kawaiiomnitron 66 points67 points  (1 child)

But he is black anyways despite the decomposition, there is WIP of his splash art that shows his face https://www.artstation.com/artwork/35q5B

[–]PsyklonAeon16 177 points178 points  (28 children)

IKR? I always thought he was green or something.

[–]-Basileus 133 points134 points  (21 children)

I always assumed he was supposed to look Caribbean, like Haitian or Jamaican

[–]MedievalMovies 4467 points4468 points  (284 children)

holy fuck that cosplay is godly

[–]NetSage 1113 points1114 points  (105 children)

That's all I could think the whole time looking at the picture. How anyone could think this is the same as Blackface is insane.

[–]French_honhonBreastfriend(EU) 508 points509 points  (57 children)

I already saw "blackface" and this is NOTHING like it.

What is wrong with these people ?

[–]mat_pandaz 354 points355 points  (21 children)

'these people' are just the same arm of people getting outraged over anything and everything.

[–]Estraxior 243 points244 points  (13 children)

Getting offended on behalf of others for things that don't deserve offense is the dumbest thing I've ever seen on the internet

[–]mat_pandaz 76 points77 points  (7 children)

I've ever seen on the internet

Sorry mate but that mentality I mentioned is invading political and corperate policies. The internet is where you hear the outrage, outside is where you see the effect is has on the world.

[–][deleted] 447 points448 points  (165 children)

https://twitter.com/deicosart/status/1181780876725805056 - One of the rival cosplayers is claiming "there is a large part of the cosplay community that applauds your decision."

https://twitter.com/CostumerDelight/status/1181630694054924289 - Woke twitter stands by the decision

https://twitter.com/deicosart/status/1181616361329627137 - Absolute nutjob white cosplayer telling us about the weight of cosplaying for POC

And finally, the dumbest tweet ive ever seen https://twitter.com/electr0spectrum/status/1181641069743632384

Ive learnt so much about woke twitter today. Everyone MUST have their sexuality pronouns AND their sexual prefernces in their bio.

[–]The2andy4UG 461 points462 points  (37 children)

ah yes, the white people coming to our defense! fear not, they shall be offended for us!

[–]extremeperson123 71 points72 points  (0 children)

"I will stand for the noble savages"

[–]Aazog 56 points57 points  (9 children)

I am glad I dont need to be offended cause these people would be so in my place!

[–]vokelar1[🍰] 339 points340 points  (35 children)

this would outrage the PoC community

Interestingly when something like this happens I only see white people complaining.

[–]TedyCruz 201 points202 points  (15 children)

She has a black friend though, checkmate racist

[–]Rihkart 40 points41 points  (2 children)

I can't be racist, my dentist is a coloured fella.

[–]LouisTheSorbet 67 points68 points  (11 children)

Wasn’t that originally something the racist assholes did? Like “(insert racist shit here), but I’m not a racist, I have A BLACK FRIEND”. Now it’s these lunatics deciding they are the arbiters of race related issues because they’re friends with “POC” (am I the only one who finds that term terribly dehumanizing?).

[–]Fermonx 16 points17 points  (5 children)

Yep thats usually how it goes or the other way around when black people are clearly racist but they say "hey but I can't be racist because I'm black!".

[–]MajesticMyriarch 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I agree that PoC is a strange term, makes it seem less like that person's skin color is just who they are and more of like it's some kind of disease or condition. I'm pretty sure the term came about because some people felt calling someone black was offensive (no idea why, we all know not all black people are really black just like not all white people are really white) and now it's considered the "safe" term.

[–]krotoxx 38 points39 points  (3 children)

Like do they not understand how demeaning they are? “PoC are too stupid and naive to understand they should be upset so as someone of the superior race I need to be outraged on their behalf.” Is all I get from people who do that

[–]RodasAPC 41 points42 points  (3 children)

In my experience people who have racist parents/grandparents tend to overcompensate on stuff like this.

Poor understanding that the main component behind racism is intent, and not a list of actions/words is something that bothers me. And just overall another face on how racism and ignorance impacts society.

[–]zack77070 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Can confirm. Not white, not offended.

[–]WarriorMadnessMy flag, defend our brethrens! Luminosité Eternelle! 25 points26 points  (1 child)

Sounds like someone is salty because her cosplay was probably better.

[–]Connarheaquinn 21 points22 points  (1 child)

I bet it was other contestants who saw how good it was that reported it

[–]F-b 2708 points2709 points  (163 children)

Please everyone, take a look at those behind the scene pictures of the costume. It's not even a face paint, the head is a fucking helmet, torso and arms is a latex vest, and... it is so amazingly well done! She spent 3000 euros and 4 months on this work and she got harassed, defamed and banned for this. A french (subtitled) video tried to sum up the scandal.

[–]KingTamakos 222 points223 points  (8 children)

she got ban for wearing a mask

[–]theShiggityDiggity 131 points132 points  (1 child)

In a costume contest no less

[–]Plagueflames (NA)TheDocperian 37 points38 points  (0 children)

No one cared until she put it on

[–]Craneteam 8 points9 points  (0 children)

No one cared who i was till i put on the mask

[–]Xanlis [S] 773 points774 points  (12 children)

So much work for nothing. a shame

[–]YesWeCrazy23 530 points531 points  (8 children)

It's not for nothing. I bet this little controversy will make the cosplayer more popular than they ever would have been otherwise.

[–]racooniac 88 points89 points  (1 child)

yeah she should maybe even thank those straisand-effect-idiots for being as stupid as they are because it seems to help her =)

[–]ExpectedErrorCode 38 points39 points  (1 child)

Considering that’s a beautifully accurate respectful cosplay doesn’t hurt either.

[–]TenocheF 230 points231 points  (106 children)

Is BlackFace even a thing in France? Talking about my country (Brazil), growing up I didn't even know what BlackFace was, until very recently when we started to import this concept from the US.

It seems something very related to american history.

[–]F-b 229 points230 points  (48 children)

As a french and half-black person, I can tell you that this is not a thing in France. I grew up without knowing this concept, my black caribbean mother never heard of it. But since the last few years afro-american identitarians tried to spread their propaganda through social networks and it convinced few french black activists who mixed everything with the colionalist history of France (to federate and accentuate the victimhood) and as in USA you now can start to read few idiots on twitter, time to time, who try to create dumb controversy. One of the last examples : some so-called black "anti-racist" tried to censor/block the Toutankhamon exposition because they believe the Pharaon was black and that he has been whitewashed...

[–]Fermonx 19 points20 points  (8 children)

The blackface stuff is mostly a projection of US racial problems. I mean, every country has their own discrimination problems but the only ones to project it to such a level is the US. I'm white but I was born and raised in South America, funny enough the only people that has said to me in my life that I'm not latin so I can't give opinion on anything related to latin culture were people from the US, funnily enough 4th gen latinos that don't even know how to speak spanish.

[–]dtracers 99 points100 points  (17 children)

It is very related to American history.

Honestly I see this as something very similar to banning Winnie the poo because of its association with Chinese politics.

Sure in America it is a historical thing. But that does not make it a going problem.

[–]Man_bunny 31 points32 points  (1 child)

Sadly, a lot of these ridiculous ideas are exported from the US to the rest of the world because we're heavy influences. Same with words like latinx which we actually "appropriated" from Spain. I personally don't think that America or Spain should get to influence Latin American countries in modern day but here we are, all arguing about black face that isn't really black face on global scale.

[–]VoidMiasma 7 points8 points  (0 children)

As a hispanic guy the whole "latinx" thing is annoying. In Spanish there's latino and latina, and basically everything has some sort of gender signifier on it. However, the woke culture of America finds the language itself non-inclusive and are trying to change the language. I guarantee it doesn't stop with just "latinx".

[–]Galdorow 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Not really. You can see the griezmann scandal too for the same result. It has probably been a problem but not as much as America and no one knows about this except the woke culture of course.

[–]Politicshatesme 126 points127 points  (3 children)

What jackasses think this is racist? This seems more like manufactured hate than organic hate

[–]preorder_bonus 51 points52 points  (0 children)

Pretty much what it was. People want to be offended to get her disqualified.

[–]u1ta1 17 points18 points  (2 children)

Could easily sue for defamation no?

[–]Neuchacho 31 points32 points  (0 children)

So every Obama Halloween mask is blackface by this standard. What a dumb world.

[–]Sagacious_Sophist[🍰] 1916 points1917 points 2 (107 children)

We don't need white women to defend us. We know blackface when we see it. This is not a caricature. This is a faithful recreation of Pyke.

This is blackface: https://i.imgur.com/bRkrYKI.jpg

This is "blackface": https://i.imgur.com/lnTxExr.jpg

This is not "blackface": https://i.imgur.com/d3eV3pN.jpg

Neither is this: https://i.imgur.com/CRWqmKa.jpg

People are amazingly stupid.

Again, "protecting" us from this is inherently racist - we do not need white women to wring their hands for us.

[–]Aradianta 279 points280 points  (3 children)

This needs to be sooo much higher. People who call things "blackface" don't know what it truly is anymore. Making a faithful costume for a undead zombie man (or let's be real, any cosplay, honestly) is no where near what blackface actually is.

And the fact that it's (as far as I can tell) almost all white women shaming her is even more baffling.

[–]Krakkin 44 points45 points  (0 children)

Yeah and I've never even seen that sneaky cosplay so it needs to be shared.

[–]Xanlis [S] 297 points298 points  (38 children)

Ahem, is that, Sneaky?

[–]Sagacious_Sophist[🍰] 513 points514 points  (15 children)

Yes, cosplaying as an Asian woman, no less. The bastard.

[–]pm_me_beautiful_cups 172 points173 points  (7 children)

should be banned from worlds tbh for tricking millions of men and women...

[–]preorder_bonus 87 points88 points  (5 children)

... Yes... He tricked me... That's what it was um... I'm gonna be in my bunk not getting tricked.

[–]Random_Stealth_Ward FBI 26 points27 points  (3 children)

Oh I am sure you are not getting tricked in your bunk. You are not getting tricked, that's why you are totally not going into his patreon for that special prank content

[–]NetSraC1306 15 points16 points  (0 children)

tricking?

i thought it's hot especially because it's sneaky

[–]TylerJuannabe 59 points60 points  (7 children)

I'm still looking for an actual person of colour to be offended from this, it's all just white girls trying to have a moral highground..

[–]Chuuudas 35 points36 points  (2 children)

I could colour myself black and be offended for a bit, would that count?

[–]badayli 4574 points4575 points  (522 children)

Her Cosplay is amazing and she worked a lot on it, It's not a caricature at all.

At this point, they shoulded ban those who are cosplayed in asian people too for cultural appropriation...

Seriously.

Edit :

If you want to support her, here is the link for the petition : https://secure.avaaz.org/fr/community_petitions/French_touch_cosplay__Pyke_a_leurocosplay_pour_livanart/

[–]Antichr0st 1577 points1578 points  (426 children)

Yeah, these are such bs accusations. Is it sexist for a woman to dress up as a man or a man to dress up as a woman? No it isn't, and it's also not racist to dress up as having a different skin colour if you don't do it to mock anyone.

The association of "blackface" with racism comes from American and British anti-black minstrel shows, but people need to realise that this association doesn't exist in most of the rest of Europe and stop trying to force Anglophone cultures on us.

Edit: The cosplayers' response: https://i.imgur.com/TnnoAtB.jpg

[–]TrovielMajestic Sea Lion 676 points677 points  (256 children)

Don't read the conversation on the EuroCosplay twitter though. It's saddening. "Woke" people complaining about how racist she is because she doesn't understand the """OUTRAGE""" and how she just can't cosplay as a POC because of history and american colonialism etc etc.

It's like context doesn't exist anymore.

[–]sA1atji 419 points420 points  (39 children)

Love this tweet in particular...

First he is all against X-facing and when someone calls him out for "white-facing" he argues that he was cosplaying a fictional character and that it's ok then... Clearly Pyke is real and Bilgewater is 5 minutes by car away from New York...

[–]pabbseven 108 points109 points  (8 children)

Pyke is real?

[–]sA1atji 185 points186 points  (5 children)

You don't know him? He makes the best Brazilian BBQ in a 20km radius around NY...

[–]SolarSarcasm I support because I can't CS 51 points52 points  (1 child)

BBQ Pyke skin when?

[–]cosemaggiche 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Oh yeah sweet old uncle pyke steaks with his signature sauce made out of adcs tears

[–]Barticuno 20 points21 points  (4 children)

Bilgewater is 5 minutes by car away from New York

I'm getting on a plane right away, butchers bridge here I come!

[–]LazorShar 223 points224 points  (12 children)

That is such backwards thinking. Like, is Riot practicing virtual blackface by letting non-black people create black characters? Thinking about it, at this point I'm pretty sure there are people out there who would agree with such a statement, while believing that they aren't the racists in that situation. Weird how this kind of segregation is now gaining traction outside of America.

[–]Risujemmari 104 points105 points  (7 children)

White people creating black video game characters that are violent smh'ing my head

[–]frasiers_sweater 55 points56 points  (3 children)

Im white, I played San Andreas, did virtual crimes as a black dude. I suppose my career in politics is over now.

[–]Rondeer 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Modded my CJ white as snow immediately after getting the game in 05

[–]Aratorus 197 points198 points  (144 children)

According to the arguments I've read in the Twitter comments, you're not allowed to change your skincolour in any way, period.

Doesn't matter if black to white, asian to black, white to asian or whatever else, according to them it's all racist since you're wearing a skin colour like an "accessory".

[–]facetheground 47 points48 points  (8 children)

Its such a dumb way of reasoning, because at the core of this thinking this there has to be the idea that people with different colors are by definition different. Which is a rather racist way of thinking.

[–]peterlechatdream finals 132 points133 points  (18 children)

So I'm not allowed to go tanning? Shiet

[–]Aratorus 95 points96 points  (12 children)

Better avoid the sun, mate.

[–]peterlechatdream finals 70 points71 points  (8 children)

There was a russian poet, Brodsky. One of his poems started with "Don't go out of the room. Don't make a mistake"

I'll take that advice

[–]Aratorus 38 points39 points  (7 children)

And now you're whitewashing yourself, good job.

[–]peterlechatdream finals 18 points19 points  (6 children)

White + white is still white

[–]Aratorus 18 points19 points  (3 children)

Yea, but now you're just more white than before! Don't you see how you're whitewashing yourself?

(alright, I brought this shitty joke far enough)

[–]Epicnightt 251 points252 points  (79 children)

Its funny, the more I listen to the people you are describing the more im convinced that they are the true racists.

[–]skaersSabody 204 points205 points  (29 children)

What's truly funny is that there was someone with a cosplay profile pic in which she had painted her face white and was calling the Pyke cosplayer racist. When called out she said that she wasn't parodizing a real race, but some cow-aliens or smth that didn't exist. Because the vengeful spirits of black drowned sailour who have ninja abilities where a day-to-day occurence in slave plantations

[–]packersmcmxcv 168 points169 points  (12 children)

Little known fact: most slaves could go invisible, and could stun overseers with an ability.

[–]miecislawrip old flairs 48 points49 points  (1 child)

Also if they ulted somebody they got triple the kill reward. This is how slaves could live under their poor conditions. How is this not taught in the history books?

[–]skaersSabody 78 points79 points  (7 children)

Also swim on ground and execute sickly people

[–]ForgotMyPriorName 24 points25 points  (4 children)

I mean they definitely could execute sickly people like they very much could do that

[–]skaersSabody 64 points65 points  (2 children)

Hello Internet, Wlecome to Game Theory: Is Pyke's ultimate based on real life events where slaves were forced to execute their sickly coworkers with an epic harpoon grand slam?

[–]jobriq 41 points42 points  (10 children)

is Pyke even "black"? Like his skin looks sorta pale grey/green in game (cuz he's a basically a zombie-phantom revenant pirate).

[–]skaersSabody 40 points41 points  (5 children)

No, he's definitely black if you look at Riot's artwork and even his splash

[–]Alex5173TheHaremKami(NA) 13 points14 points  (4 children)

I thought he was both tanned from the work he did when alive and that that tanned skin was then darkened from being waterlogged

[–]AzirIsOverNerfedAzir did nothing wrong 54 points55 points  (5 children)

You do? I feel like i'm slowly losing my sanity when reading these people. Like they suddenly dropped out of a portal from a dystopian novel or something.

[–]xXxWeed_Wizard420xXx 92 points93 points  (4 children)

Well, they're probably more racist as in they see races way more than some of us might do. While most here would just treat a black person like they would a white person, these people will act significantly different to a black person than a white person.

[–]WhiteKnightC LAS: VampiroMedicado 47 points48 points  (1 child)

Positive discrimination btw.

[–]locke1018 68 points69 points  (4 children)

Context went the way of the dodo a while ago m8.

[–]idontmakemoneyPirate Jhin Is Meta. Fuck You 45 points46 points  (3 children)

Ever since the advent of Twitter and bringing back witch-hunts and cancel culture instead of encouraging ACTUAL INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALISM

[–]caiallin 81 points82 points  (8 children)

From my understanding black face is mocking people from African decent. Pyke is from a fictional universe.
Where is the f****ing logic?

[–]Mornar 124 points125 points  (4 children)

More importantly, cosplay is not mocking.

[–]caiallin 41 points42 points  (3 children)

Exactly, it's from idolising a character so much you want to be them.

[–]EnergyLawyer17 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Me and my fellow assasin pirates are deeply offended by this mockery of my peoples

[–]Aratorus 61 points62 points  (75 children)

The reason why they see it as racist is because they're wearing skin colour like some kind of accessory.

By their definition changing your skin colour in any way (wearing latex, makeup, whatever) is considered racist, and they do consider it as such aswell.

Atleast that's what I'm getting from the Twitter comments here.

[–]skaersSabody 82 points83 points  (60 children)

I kinda get the logic, but on the other that would basically mean the death of cosplay for like 80% of it's participants (can't make anime cosplays if you're white and vice versa)

[–]Aratorus 47 points48 points  (1 child)

Yea, that's how I feel pretty much. In my opinion it should be okay as long as it isn't making fun about the race in any way (alias, the reason why blackface is considered racist in the first place). We do wear makeup and similar things as an accessory aswell, which does change our skin too (even if not that extreme).

[–]RamRoverRL 147 points148 points  (12 children)

It’s funny how everyone but black people are the first to claim blackface. And the comments on Twitter are hilarious. They really think she did it on purpose.

[–]Devlonir 40 points41 points  (0 children)

The only color I see in the people congratulating EuroCosplay on Twitter are hair colors.

[–]PM_Best_Porn_PlsBring Nida Back To Mid 78 points79 points  (7 children)

90% of time people calling racism against black people on such things that are not racist are white sjw people who always post racist things against white people and say its not racism when its against white people

[–]JoziaSr 67 points68 points  (13 children)

Just wait until we make contact with aliens and it becomes xenophobic to make a costume looking like one or for refusing to have sex with the alien.

[–]Hambrailaaah 60 points61 points  (7 children)

I too remember the day where I could say ayyyy lmaooo without offending our friends the aliens.

[–]_liminal 71 points72 points  (2 children)

bruh you can't just call them "the aliens", the preferred nomenclature is "celestial american"

[–]peterlechatdream finals 24 points25 points  (2 children)

"No no Bobby, you can't refuse anal probing, it's a part of their culture" /s

[–]GhoastTypist 42 points43 points  (34 children)

So actors of a different skin color playing the part of a character of another color written in say a comic or novel is also racist?

I'm getting confused if this is actually racism or people just want to flex on the worlds sensitivity. I think we as a society need to draw a line on whats absurd and whats legitimate otherwise we'll be too worried about hurting another person to even leave or homes or post anything on the internet.

[–]daria_arbuz 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Or actors that put on the silicone skin with wrinkles to play older characters... Ageist?
Age -clap- is -clap- not -clap- a -clap- costume? Or how is it lol

[–]10inchblackhawk Free Footjobs and Circumcisions 362 points363 points  (14 children)

TIL Pyke isnt green

[–]NetSraC1306 1439 points1440 points  (136 children)

That cosplay is absolutely gorgeous holy shit

Calling this to blackfacing (which is normally painting your face black with big lips) is just beyong bullshit. If you get offended by this cosplay then go and sit on a cactus...

Edit: Check those other shots from her cosplay. It's so good

[–]Gazskull 506 points507 points  (52 children)

Hilarious part being all the idiots complaining about the "blackface" are actually white people.

And she actually painted her prothesis black, not her skin directly, so it's not really a blackface, checkmate atheists

[–]Saradain 287 points288 points  (35 children)

Wouldnt it have been worse if she took a originally black character and turned it white? Like jesus clearly she respects the character a lot thats why the cosplay looks the way it does..

This is like all the white knights trying to squeeze their white guilt out of this, please -_-

[–]Eqth 272 points273 points  (20 children)

it's either blackface or whitewashing they'll get you either way

[–]BowsersshellFlairs are limited to 2 emotes. 65 points66 points  (15 children)

Apparently people have being saying “there’s lots of white characters she could’ve chosen” so basically you’re not allowed to cosplay certain characters based on your skin colour and that’s how we beat racism! By controlling people based on skin colour. Ridiculous.

[–]Reddit-Incarnate 82 points83 points  (2 children)

Or "why do they only show white characters in cosplay"

[–]pakwk40 83 points84 points  (1 child)

thats the worst one of them all, "why are there only white people here?" said the white person on twitter about a european contest

[–]Noah__Webster 72 points73 points  (5 children)

Darkening your skin with makeup to dress up as Pyke is way different than what was traditionally blackface where it was intentionally using stereotypes about black people in the form of makeup...

I swear nuance is dead.

[–]Lenticious 171 points172 points  (66 children)

Are there any black people/PoC who are actually offended by this, or it's just virtue signalling twitter woke-heads? It even looks like it's coloured prosthetics, not her darkening herself.

[–]F-b 65 points66 points  (4 children)

I'm half-black or simply black depending of the point of view and this cosplay is a masterpiece. I've scrolled on the facebook page and the twitter comments, the only persons who are calling this cosplay racist are white girls! This is retarded. These people are advocating for a modern segregation and try to import the racialist agenda from the US to Europe. And yes, in my country (France) the blackface/skin color obsession is not a thing because it doesn't resonate with our history like in America.

[–]Silver-Velvet 117 points118 points  (8 children)

Judging from the Twitter, assuming the profile pictures are reflective of the poster, the outraged people are all white women.

And again, assuming profile picture is indicative of the poster, anyone with photos of dark skinned individuals, several of which refer to themselves as "POC", consider this cosplay art, and calls out the organisers as being stupid/racist for banning her work.

So... yeah, the usual SJW virtuesignalling in full effect. It's funny how the most rabid people in this debate are white women.

[–]TrovielMajestic Sea Lion 27 points28 points  (1 child)

I avoid twitter generally for this reason. Most of the loudest voices are like real life caricatures...

[–]teddy_tesla 304 points305 points  (20 children)

I'll chime in because I'd imagine most people on this sub aren't black. I have an issue with most black face, no matter when it happens, the age of the person, or how many white people want to pretend that the practice as a whole isn't offensive.

This isn't black face. This is extremely well done stage makeup for a specific purpose. You can tell that the care and intent goes beyond "I'll paint my face black and it'll be hilarious to 'be' a black person". It's the difference between me putting watermelons in my shirt and galavanting around as a "girl" and what sneaky does.

No issues here.

[–]maxotyi 81 points82 points  (2 children)

Exactly. The shit not even makin fun of us she literally just going as a character from the game, they smoking dick. Edit:i typo'd like 4 times don't mind me

[–]Kotouu 59 points60 points  (4 children)

Nope. The cosplay looks cool as fuck to me and there is literally nothing to be offended about. The only people who are offended are woke twitter heads, majority of which who are oddly white getting offended for me. I honestly don't get it but its whatever.

[–]PLAYTRYNDAMERE 740 points741 points  (47 children)

Crazy how people are defending EuroCosplay, and then when people make a counter argument they reply that they're using strawmen, lmao actual clowns.

[–]TrovielMajestic Sea Lion 355 points356 points  (12 children)

Twitter is a cesspool.

[–]Baldoora 195 points196 points  (6 children)

Tumbler users realized that no one listened them so they changed to more mainstream media.

I cant even comprehend some peoples twitter profiles, especially when they use their own names for things I would normally consider shit posting.

[–]Supermage479 63 points64 points  (1 child)

Tumblr users realized they were only preaching to each other or 4chan trolls, not a real community

[–]yourkenyanprince 183 points184 points  (6 children)

Most people in that twitter thread are jealous cosplayers trying to cancel her.

[–]SparkStorm 74 points75 points  (1 child)

Yeah that’s what I was gonna say they sound insanely jealous, can’t find a way to diss the quality, let’s attack and make assumptions about her person instead lol

[–]toomuchradiation 340 points341 points  (77 children)

European content bans French participant over specific american cultural thingy. Why is this happening?

Reminds me of similar story when Lithuanian girl made cosplay of medic from Apex legends and used cosmetics to darken her skin to stay closer to character and got banned on twitch for it. Hello~, people of Europe have no fucking idea what blackface is. Why are we getting dragged into it?

[–]Perfson 76 points77 points  (45 children)

Hey, im from Ukraine, can i let my 3 y.o. daughter to paint herself using black colour? Or it may offend someone, cuz something happened hundred years ago in some country?

[–]MarmaladeFugitive 446 points447 points  (106 children)

There is nothing worse than self aggrandizing white people getting offended on behalf of minorities and outrage culture.

That cosplay is great and it's a shame the creator gets treated like crap because people are fucking stupid.

[–]lenniheinI love stats 239 points240 points  (94 children)

Look at this. Some White Girl getting offended by Black People disagreeing with her on the matter. LOL

[–]Thowzand 171 points172 points  (15 children)

Holy fuck I legit got pissed off reading through her tweets on her main page. "We will fight for them." Bitch who the fuck asked you to?

[–]Aratorus 67 points68 points  (6 children)

The cosplayer friend who is jealous of the amazing Pyke cosplay, from the look of things.

[–]PinkMage 41 points42 points  (2 children)

The most racist belief in my opinion is assuming you need to fight their fights. That reduces other people to less than human.

[–]Aquillifer Clap Faker LUL 11 points12 points  (0 children)

The self-righteousness they exude is insufferable. Like it almost makes me gag to what lengths they will go.

[–]S_H_KI am the progress I am the Lighting 83 points84 points  (1 child)

Looking at Twitter is not hard to find the guy who did it...

[–]DatTrackGuy 124 points125 points  (8 children)

This is not black face.

Source: African American that has literally marched in our streets about civil rights issues.

Edit: Tpyo

[–]Roger_Asus 63 points64 points  (4 children)

You poor thing! You're so under this toxic white-straight-male society that you don't even KNOW when you're being oppressed by it!

Don't worry I'll fight for YOUR rights, even if YOU don't want it!

-A gender-fluid individual probably

[–]notoriousmule 639 points640 points  (39 children)

World's gone mad

[–]Manatee_Madness 190 points191 points  (3 children)

Bandits I can handle. But this talk of dragons? Worlds gone mad, I say.

[–]meldsheri told myself i'll never main but happened 41 points42 points  (2 children)

Let me guess, someone stole your sweetroll?

[–]jwinter01 39 points40 points  (0 children)

One step forward 2 steps back just like it's supposed to be. /s

[–]Nevran 303 points304 points  (53 children)

I don't really saw how it is blackfacing? Is blackface only when you change your skin colour to black (because this cosplay do it perfectly)? I though it was for the VERY offensive halloween costume made to mock people of black colour.

I don't really know where the stance is.

[–]Xanlis [S] 129 points130 points  (32 children)

And the worst part, is that the 'original' blackfacing was made to mock people!

[–]Antichr0st 137 points138 points  (28 children)

And also, that association comes mostly from American and British minstrel shows that were done as anti-black propaganda. The association of racism with dressing up as a different skin colour is largely uncommon in the rest of Europe.

For example, there is an ongoing popular Spanish show format Tu Cara Me Suena (Your Face Sounds Familiar) which is currently being televised in many European countries. The point of the show is that local celebrities mask themselves and sing a song from popular and iconic artists, I can guarantee that there was "blackface" used when people represented some black iconic artists popular in those countries (Stevie Wonder, Bonney M, etc.). Similarly, it is not uncommon to dress up as other colours at carnival season too and to represent for example Caspar in nativity scenes or Othello in theatre. The outrage and controversy surrounding Zwarte Piet for example largely came from Americans trying to apply their cultural standards in a country entirely unrelated to them and not knowing anything about the Netherlands. And of course, the media picked it up and then tried to convince Dutchies that it is racist. Sadly that media campaign was even somewhat of a success, solely because people don't like being accused of being racist even if it is on completely wrong grounds.

But the reality is, in most of Europe, people don't think it is racist to dress up as a different skin colour, just like it isn't sexist for a woman to dress up as a man or vice versa. People really need to stop applying Anglophone culture to non-Anglophone countries.

[–]Azhkind 33 points34 points  (4 children)

First time I heard about bblackface as a French, was with a footballer player that disguise into a well know basketball player that was black. First I saw the picture, I was "that's a cool disguise and its show some culture".

But apparently, that shock people.

[–]D3wnis 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Blackface IS NOT changing your skin colour to black. Blackface IS mocking black people by using racist caricatures.

[–]Damienplz 78 points79 points  (7 children)

Lol topics like these make me laugh because it's usually white people getting angry on my behalf...for no good reason xD. Her intent was to cosplay a fantasy character, not a black person. She also didnt even paint herself black its literally a helmet lmao free her.

[–]the_propaganda_panda 289 points290 points  (30 children)

Sneaky to be banned soon for regularly cosplaying characters who are of another gender than his own.

[–]Skaer 44 points45 points  (0 children)

This costume is ridiculously good, they deserve to not have it on their shitty event.

[–]Phalkyn 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Honestly, I would see this as grounds for a discrimination lawsuit against the org on the basis of her race. They told her she couldn't wear a costume because she was white.

IANAL

[–]Picmanreborn 72 points73 points  (17 children)

I'm black. I doubt anyone who was black was upset about this honestly. Cancel culture tries their hardest to look for anything to ruin someone. Her cosplay wasn't blackface just like how RDJ wasn't blackface in tropic thunder

[–]LyteStryke 19 points20 points  (13 children)

I'm black as well and completely fine with this but I also wouldn't be surprised if the woke part of our community was against this.

[–]Picmanreborn 28 points29 points  (6 children)

I forgot about them. "condoms are an invention of the white man to keep us from reproducing"🤦🏾‍♂️

[–]computo2000 56 points57 points  (7 children)

It is almost obvious that these criticisms & accusations come from people who know who have no chance against her, and therefore sought to eliminate her from the competition

Another cosplayer pushing for a worse punishment, yikes https://twitter.com/electr0spectrum/status/1181604417826676739 Does she enter similar competitions with Livanart?

[–]JhinSucksICry 85 points86 points  (22 children)

Ironic how most of the people acting offended in the twitter comments aren't PoC...

[–]OkPermit3 56 points57 points  (13 children)

This is even funnier.

[–]JhinSucksICry 31 points32 points  (1 child)

It's actually incredible how ignorant people can be while trying to take the "morally superior" position of open-mindedness.

[–]Wannabe1TapElite 30 points31 points  (8 children)

when someone mentions their pronouns in their bio you have 95% certainty they are actually insane.

[–]PhillipIInd 125 points126 points  (29 children)

aka 5 people on twitter cried about it, so now shes banned

[–]Aratorus 79 points80 points  (27 children)

Reading through the Twitter comments, there seem to be quite a few people which hold the opinion that this is blackface.

They also hold the opinion that changing your skincolour in any way is considered blackface / racist, hope the backlash to this will be big enough that it can be talked through properly.

[–]F-b 35 points36 points  (9 children)

The funniest part of this shit is that she didn't paint her skin, it's a full latex suit, head included.

[–]RakanJungle 178 points179 points  (139 children)

cosplay is just amazing.

Are black people allowed to cosplay white characters? Because I definetey know many who do and it aint 'Whiteface'??? Idk i just hate this dumb logic.

[–]drumpat01 57 points58 points  (15 children)

That's been hot topic lately. Most of the time, I see black cosplayers just race-bend the character. The cosplay is good enough to know what character it is.

[–]xgladar 39 points40 points  (3 children)

the thing is, ive seen black cosplayers say its not "race-bending" , they are cosplaying the character. thats why when they argue against skin darkening they say "you dont see me whitening my skin. im not doing a black version of a character, im just cosplaying without changing my skin tone"

[–]etched 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Theres a BIG difference between her creating a body out of a helmet and chest piece and just wearing the clothes herself. Had she painted her own skin I can kind of see where this topic can be brought up..

But the girl created a whole other freaking body. If she painted it any different that WASNT true to the character it would just be... inaccurate? Or worse..racist??

Like imagine her making this body suit and making the decision to lighten a dark skinned character to look more like her. This isn't her own skin. This is something being painted and crafted. It's a prosthetic.

[–]Davtaz 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Yet if she cosplayed Pyke and "made" him white, she would be called out for whitewashing. lose/lose situation. Twitter racists win.

[–]Orthal_poe 38 points39 points  (2 children)

A week ago, french TV made a 5min doc following her during the cosplay French cup.

You can see it here, she is working on her pyke cosplay from the 1min35 timestamp. Trully a wonderful cosplay these accusations are such bs.

[–]PetriTripe 77 points78 points  (3 children)

EuroCosplay challenging Blizzard for the dumbest decision of the month.

[–]Alartan 11 points12 points  (0 children)

And we aren't even midway october

[–]Magehunter_Skassi Caristinn 51 points52 points  (9 children)

I expecting regular controversy over a use of skin darkening makeup and about whether or not that's comparable to the blackface used in minstrel shows.

It's literally not even makeup, though? It's just someone cosplaying a black character with latex? Insane.

[–]WarriorMadnessMy flag, defend our brethrens! Luminosité Eternelle! 9 points10 points  (0 children)

TIL that the cosplay community is full of pathetic jealous assholes that will accuse someone of racism just because said person's cosplay is better than theirs.

[–]ShinyPachirisu 43 points44 points  (10 children)

Do people not know what black face is anymore or are they just trying to redefine it? Blackface is a cheap, insulting way of painting just your face/body pitch black and adding exaggerated make up to appear as a racist, stereotypical depiction of a black person. Like Mr. Popo from DBZ

It's not blackface if you're portraying a good faith tribute to a character. Recently Justin Trudeau was accused of wearing blackface when he was very clearly just trying to accurately portray MJ or an Indian man. There was no racist exaggeration or blatant mockery involved just like this Pyke cosplay.

[–]mrnobodyfeelsgood 20 points21 points  (0 children)

This is just fucking sad. I don’t understand people at all.